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utidjian
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First... I want to thank the development team at Vernier for making this available. I am a long time (12 years) Linux user and I am really glad to be able to use LabPro and LoggerPro with Linux.
Second... I should read the bulletins and check into this site once in a while!! I missed about 4 months of Linux + LoggerPro goodness.
Third... On to the subject of my post: I know this was originally built for some flavor of Ubuntu. I don't use Ubuntu. I use Fedora, currently Fedora 10.
I downloaded the tarball anyway, unpacked it and was stuck with two Debian (.deb) packages. No big deal. Since I have a Debian "interpreter" for Archive Manager I simply unpacked the .debs.
With the .debs unpacked I was presented with a couple more tarballs. I unpacked those. I read through the various scripts and the source part of the driver package. I built a new driver for my kernel version and installed it. Copied rules file to /etc/udev/rules.d/. Plugged in the LabPro and it came up fine (no complaints.)
I then unpacked the LoggerPro archive and installed that by hand to /usr/local/. Tried to run the program as a regular user and it complained of missing /usr/lib/ files. Went back and installed libGoIO.* and libNGIO.* in /usr/lib/, made the links as per the script and everything worked fine.
I hooked up a thermocouple sensor (TCA-BTA) and it autorecognized the sensor and gave it something to measure with my Bic. Took some data.... then went to Stop. The program complained that it couldn't write to /usr/local/share.... Fine, it gave me a choice to save to my home folder. Regular users really shouldn't have write permissions to anywhere outside of their /home/userid folder except for /tmp. Even if this is a public beta.
I did some curve fitting and played around with it a bit. Some of the features such as dragging curve fit endpoints ([ and ] symbols) around was a bit slow and chunky. In any case... it made a nice fit and I was able to Print Graph. I don't seem to be able to print in landscape mode however. Even in portrait it is still an excellent graph, well sized and readable.
The LoggerPro program also appears in my Applications --> Education submenu.
To summarize... I am psyched. The program works and I will continue to test it with all the sensors we have. I would also like to test it in a classroom environment (with students) which means installing it on five more machines. Not sure of the licensing on this public beta. I will not proceed with the install until I am sure.
I also plan to rebuild the package as a proper rpm file.
System:
Intel iMac 20"
# cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 14
model name : Genuine Intel(R) CPU 1500 @ 2.00GHz
stepping : 8
cpu MHz : 1000.000
cache size : 2048 KB
physical id : 0
siblings : 2
core id : 0
cpu cores : 2
apicid : 0
initial apicid : 0
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 6
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca cmov pat clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx constant_tsc bts pni monitor vmx est tm2 xtpr
bogomips : 3999.86
clflush size : 64
power management:
processor : 1
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 14
model name : Genuine Intel(R) CPU 1500 @ 2.00GHz
stepping : 8
cpu MHz : 1000.000
cache size : 2048 KB
physical id : 0
siblings : 2
core id : 1
cpu cores : 2
apicid : 1
initial apicid : 1
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 6
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca cmov pat clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx constant_tsc bts pni monitor vmx est tm2 xtpr
bogomips : 3999.84
clflush size : 64
power management:
# cat /etc/redhat-release
Fedora release 10 (Cambridge)
# uname -a
Linux istrain 2.6.27.24-170.2.68.fc10.i686 #1 SMP Wed May 20 23:10:16 EDT 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
If there is any other info you need please ask.
That is all for now.
-David Utidjian-
Engineering Physics Lab Director
Ramapo College of New Jersey
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Garth
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Thanks, David.
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amcdawes
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Hi David,
I am curious about the status of an RPM for the loggerpro beta if you have been able to package one.
If not, could you provide some more detail about the Debian interpreter? Some basic google searches haven't returned anything fruitful yet, though I'll keep looking around.
Thanks,
Andrew
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utidjian
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I am curious about the status of an RPM for the loggerpro beta if you have been able to package one.
Andrew,
Sorry to reply so late. Been busy with the start of a new semester and upgrading to Fedora 11.
Since I went through several kernel updates in Fedora 10 and I am now on Fedora 11 I will be building an RPM for use here (Ramapo College of New Jersey.) I haven't had a chance to look at LoggerPro on Linux for a while and I won't get to it until sometime next week.
For me and for other users of RPM based systems an RPM package of LoggerPro would be the ideal arrangement for testing (duh.)
mini rant/
Not sure why the developers at Vernier decided to go with a Debian based system exclusively though Ubuntu is quite popular. Back when I started using Linux about 17 years ago Ubuntu didn't even exist and Debian was not all that popular. The choice the developers made, for whatever reason(s), simply reduced their public beta user base to whoever is running Ubuntu.
On the one hand I could simply install Ubuntu on a test system and get on with it. But just me testing it out on a single system would not be much of a test. A much better test would be to install it in a lab and let the students have at it. That is where the bugs really show up.
One the other hand, to install it in a lab would require that I install Ubuntu on all the lab machines. I am not about to do that since I have already "standardized" on Fedora. It would simply be too much work for me to get up to speed on all the quirks of another distro simply to test a new program at this point in time.
That is my primary motivation for making an RPM based package.
/mini rant
If not, could you provide some more detail about the Debian interpreter? Some basic google searches haven't returned anything fruitful yet, though I'll keep looking around.
If you are using Fedora 10 or 11 simply click on
Applications --> Accessories --> Archive Manager --> Open
Then navigate to where you downloaded the vstloggerpro_3.7_i386.deb file to and it will "open".
Alternatively, using the file manager (Nautilus), navigate to where the file is and it should have the "package" icon. Double click on the file and it should open in Archive Manager. Archive Manager is really File Roller. Archive Manager (or File Roller) has the ability to open and unpack .deb files.
Well.... isn't that interesting!!??!!
The system I am typing this reply on was the system I originally installed LoggerPro (LP) on. I was running Fedora 10 back when I installed LP. LP "broke" as soon as I upgraded the kernel. More accurately, the vstusb kernel module broke. The vstusb.ko module was built for the kernel I was running at the time of the build. When I upgraded the kernel I would have to rebuild the vstusb module. LoggerPro would try to start and issue a warning that the vstusb kernel module was broken.
The interesting part is that since I have upgraded this system to Fedora 11 LoggerPro now works again! The reason it works is that the vstusb module is now part of the current kernel. This is cool. Now I don't have to worry about rebuilding the module every time I do a kernel upgrade.
Obviously the fine development staff and management at Vernier released the vstusb driver to the kernel developers and they included it in the "standard" kernel. OK so I take back any mean things I ever said (or even thought) about Vernier.
Of course we still have the problem of the main LoggerPro_3.7 as a Debian package but that is relatively easy to deal with. I-you-we no longer have to worry about maintaining the vstusb kernel module. w00t!
I will test it on a system that has Fedora 11 installed but has never had LoggerPro installed and work out the procedure. I will post it sometime next week... by Friday the 18th.
-David Utidjian-
Engineering Physics Lab Director
Ramapo College of New Jersey
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Garth
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Thanks for the good words. I do apologize that we didn't support any other distros than Ubuntu in this go around. This has been a large, expensive project and we were unsure how much "bang for the buck" we'd get. We had to reduce the scope in order to do it at all.
Again, thanks so much for testing it, and for posting your tips and tricks for others.
-Garth
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ashdcnueve
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good gracious!
i've made it! i have finished installing it on fedora 10...
a couple of problems occur but it is now working..
thanks for the assistance of some people....
thanks!
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Garth
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Glad to hear it!
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